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Wednesday, October 12, 2005

FOUNDER OF ICARRY.ORG ARRESTED

By John Birch, President, Concealed Carry, Inc.

A few weeks ago we wrote to you about Shaun Kranish and his efforts to start another gun rights organization in Illinois, ICARRY.ORG. We welcome youth and vigor to the movement. Well now Shaun has his first taste of the war as he has been arrested at Rock Valley College in Rockford, Illinois for carrying an empty fanny pack. Shaun tells his story below, but essentially Shaun disagrees with the College's policy on self-defense. Therefore, Shaun wanted to speak to the President of the school, but was referred to the campus public safety office (aka d'uh cops.)

What happened next is best said in Shaun's own words which are below. But the result of his two hour meeting with them was to be arrested for disorderly conduct by officer Edward Crumb (what a perfect name for a small-time "want to be a real cop.") It should be noted that Officer Crumb was allegedly acting under the direction of Chief Joe Drought.

Now Shaun can't even return to campus without being arrested for trespass and taken to county jail. I think you will be at first amused, and then appalled, by the charges which I now give you verbatim from the Criminal Complaint filed in the Circuit Court of the 17th Judicial Circuit, County of Winnebago, Case Number 05-315.

DISORDERLY CONDUCT: in that Shawn (SIC) Kranish knowingly did an act in such an unreasonable manner as to alarm or disturb Janna L. Shwaiko and provoke a breach of peace to wit Shawn (SIC) Kranish walked into the Presidents (SIC) office and requested from Shwaiko a meeting with the President. Kranish was wearing a blue jacket with the words "I Carry" on the front of the jacket and he was also wearing a black nylon pouch or handgun holster (Note: Can't officer Crumb tell the difference?). Shwaiko believed Kranish to be carrying a gun and it alarmed her in violation of 720 ILCS 5/26-1(a) of the Illinois Compiled Statutes.

Officer Edward Crumb, #167
Complainant


(NOTE: Shaun's I CARRY windbreaker and holster were seized as evidence.)

This is absurd on its face. If one is walking down the street and sees someone who looks like they might be a gang banger and have a gun, may one then call the police, have them searched, and when it is discovered they do NOT have a gun the "gang banger" is then arrested for disorderly conduct? All because one was alarmed? At Concealed Carry, Inc. we say "give us break!" and dare we even say "get real."

It is clear to us at Concealed Carry, Inc. that Mr. Kranish is not being prosecuted not for disorderly conduct, but for the crime of not having a liberal anti-gun mindset that believes only "highly trained professionals" should have access to weapons designed for self-defense. The actions of Chief Joe Drought, who allegedly directed Officer Crumb to arrest Mr. Kranish, have a chilling effect on free speech on campus and are intolerable in this day of tolerance and diversity.

Therefore Concealed Carry, Inc. is pledging to support Mr. Kranish in refuting these ridiculous charges and further investigating if a false arrest has occurred. Our policy at Concealed Carry, Inc. is to recommend that the arresting officer not be able assert he was acting "under of color of law" and we will recommend the officer be held personally liable as the taxpayers should not have to pay for this tom foolery.

We believe the email for Chief Joe Drought to be j.drought@rvc.cc.il.us but this is not confirmed. You might want to try dropping him a line anyway. We are.

Please pass this around to others if you would be so kind. We have contacted the ISRA about this and hope they will take an interest in this "North of I-80" anti-gun action by Rock Valley College.

CONTACT: John Birch, President, Concealed Carry, Inc., 3412 Adams Road, Oak Brook, IL 60523 Tel: 630 660-3935, john@concealcarry.org

CONTACT: Mr. Shaun Kranish sak@icarry.org

TEXT OF MR. KRANISH'S EMAIL TO CONCEALED CARRY, INC.

Dear John,

It’s been a few weeks since we’ve talked, but I wanted to check in with you. A couple people also suggested I tell you what happened to me today while I was at my college.

I’ve been wearing my legal carrying case to school for the past 2 weeks. There is a school policy against guns (no surprise there), so I have NEVER had a gone on campus, not even in my car. I have been wearing the case/holster (enclosed drop-leg holster type) as a statement to my beliefs. In the past two weeks, ever since I started, I have received not a single complaint. I have never been approached by any of my teachers, I have never been asked not to wear it, no one has every expressed concern about it. On the other hand, it has had a desired effect on a few people, and they have come up to me and started a conversation with me because of it. I always love telling people how I feel about the issues and giving them as much information as possible. My statement is a very harmless and positive one.

For the past week I’ve also been wearing my “ICarry.org” jacket. It is a blue “raid jacket” with yellow print. This jacket has nothing but letters on it. A number of people have come up to me because of it as well, and I’ve had some great conversations because of that. Just Monday night I spoke with a fellow classmate of mine outside in the cold for a half an hour (at night) after class. We discussed civil rights and all of the many terrible things happening in this country. This is the reason I have been wearing my attire the past few weeks, to make a statement. I never meant to scare anyone, intimidate anyone, or “alarm” anyone. The outfit passed the test with hundreds if not thousands of people the past two weeks, but that wasn’t enough to guarantee I wouldn’t be harassed.

Today after my morning class, I headed up to the Administrative offices on campus. I had been wanting to discuss school policy pertaining to firearms and defenselessness for a while, and it was a convenient time for me. I decided not to put it off any longer, so I went in and inquired about setting up a meeting with the president of the school. I was asked what it was about, and said it was regarding school policy. I was then asked if I had taken the issue up with anyone else, and I said no. It was recommended to me that before meeting with the president I should take the issue up with whatever department the issue may pertain to. I decided I could speak to the DPS (Department of Public Safety). I thanked the woman in the administrative office and went on my way.

I entered the public safety building, which is specifically the police department on campus. I asked the women there about speaking with someone, and she called someone on dispatch. I thanked her, and she asked me to take a seat in the waiting room. A few minutes later the “chief” entered one door and we began talking. Another police officer entered the opposite door, in such a way that I was standing between the two. They asked me to put my hands up, and the second one began fumbling with my carrying-case. I instructed him to undo the clip (the fastening device that keeps the case closed) and then to lift up the outermost cover flap. He could then see that there was no weapon inside. They asked me if I had any weapons on me, and I did not, and they frisked me to make sure.

We then talked for 10-15 minutes perhaps out in the lobby. I told them that I had come to speak with someone about school policy and told them about my beliefs, the organization I started, and all of that. They claimed (many times) to agree with my beliefs, but that didn’t matter. I was then asked to step into a waiting room and I agreed. We spoke some more, and the chief handed me off to one of the other officers for the remainder of the day. About an hour and a half approaching 2 hours went by, and I had been asked to fill out a written statement. I respectfully declined this, but answered the officer’s questions anyhow. It was now nearly time for my next class, and I informed the officer that I must be going and could not be late. I was told I wouldn’t be going anywhere.


I then was asked to initial a paper detailing my rights. You have the right to remain silent…etc. I was now getting upset, as I was about to be late for my class. I was asked if they could search my vehicle, and although I normally wouldn’t comply with such a request, I offered them a deal. I said you can search my vehicle, as long as you don’t make me late to my class. I had stressed many times now that I must go to my class. They declined this offer and went away for another 10 minutes or so and spent time on the phone talking to a number of people (as they had been the entire time). I was then officially arrested and charged with “DISORDERLY CONDUCT” for the attire that I wore. The excuse they used was that I had “alarmed” the woman in the administrative building. I don’t know whether or not this was true, as she didn’t seem alarmed or ask me anything at the time. I only know that she called them up after I had been there and perhaps reported that my case seemed suspicious.

I had never been arrested in my life until today, and it’s very disappointing that that has now changed. I repeat that I was in violation of no law, no school policy, and had never so much as been asked not to wear what I wore. I was arrested in order to “teach me a lesson”. I don’t believe lessons should have to involve criminal charges unless those charges have grounds. This is an issue of harassment and unwarranted, false arrest.

I was told I must speak to school officials before I can be allowed to return to class. I missed one class (and an exam I that class) already. I was thankfully able to get in contact with the person I must talk to, and I will be seeing them tomorrow morning, in time before my next classes. Hopefully I will be allowed to return to class. I was told that without permission to return to campus, I would face being arrested with trespassing and be sent to the county jail.

That’s the most accurate and lengthy account I’ve written yet. If you feel it’s newsworthy and want to use it please feel free. I’ve contacted Walter Maksym and after a very nice conversation I will be using him for counsel most likely in a civil suit. I believe I have a very strong case and that people must be held responsible for wrongful arrest and the damages caused. Talk to ya later.

Shaun Kranish


Posted By John Birch, President, Concealed Carry, Inc. Comments welcome: john@concealcarry.org

29 Comments:

Anonymous said...

Hah! What did he expect? This is the People's Republic of Illinois, a political entity in Amerika.

His "Crime" is the disturbing the Political Orthodoxy, nothing less, nothing more. If his "crime" is alarming some fool, then the mere act of carrying a rifle case must be "alarming" too! This is the equivolent of having a Confederate Flag jacket, because that too I guess would be "alarming" to the Political Orthodoxy. What was the alarming part anyway; the fanny pack or the jacket expressing a political belief?

Wednesday, October 12, 2005 1:14:17 PM  
Anonymous said...

Col. Shoemaker, where are you now when we need you?

Wednesday, October 12, 2005 1:21:28 PM  
Anonymous said...

Has anyone, anywhere forwarded this information to Packing.org, NRA-ILA, Gun Owners of America (GOA) or The Second Amendment Foundation (SAF)? I am at work otherwise I would do it right now.

Wednesday, October 12, 2005 1:32:45 PM  
Anonymous said...

Sent this today
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Dear Chief,

As a member of the National Association of Chiefs of Police I find the use of the "Disorderly Conduct routine" reprehensible. I realize that I might know the full story. However, since the deep pockets of many Illinois gun-rights members and organizations, including members of the NACOP, will provide money for legal support, which will include a detailed and extended discovery process, you can be sure the full story will come out. If it does turn out that you were giving Mr. Kranish "The business" merely for teaching him a lesson because of a difference of opinion on school policy, you should note that in almost every case, this is cause for being personally liable for violating civil rights laws, and precludes your department's insurance carrier from participating in your and your officer's defense. Also, since this would be an intentional act, your personal insurance carrier would not participate in your defense either.

Why does a simple problem like this generate such widespread concern? First of all because it involves gun rights. It generates much coverage because of the national exposure. I am sure you know what I mean. Enough said. Secondly, because of the disorderly conduct charge. I hope you realize how much your actions affect the long term employment and civil rights of the people you have charged with a DO. Many companies now conduct full background checks on new hires. A simple DO because of a pissing match on school policy will eliminate Mr. Kranish from many types of employment and will result in the disallowing of owning a handgun in many jurisdictions that require registration.

Please be cognizant of the issues above.

Wednesday, October 12, 2005 1:39:12 PM  
Anonymous said...

I realize that I might know the full story

Obviously I meant I did NOT know know the full story.... sigh... the email version I corrected.

Wednesday, October 12, 2005 1:41:43 PM  
Anonymous said...

Let's hope this case gets a lot of publicity, and that Shaun is able to obtain favorable redress in court against these clowns.

Wednesday, October 12, 2005 1:57:31 PM  
Anonymous said...

Boy, imagine if that was some kid wearing a brady campaign shirt. They would have let him give his antigun speach to the whole school.

Wednesday, October 12, 2005 3:27:19 PM  
Anonymous said...

Thanks for letting us post comments - very cool of you. I work online with my own home based business website. Check it out if you get the chance. Thanks again!

Wednesday, October 12, 2005 6:21:08 PM  
Anonymous said...

I hope they don't expect us to turn the other cheek to this. They only think they can get away with this because they can easily get support from Mayor Daley and GunBanRod Blagojevich.

Wednesday, October 12, 2005 7:53:29 PM  
Don Gwinn said...

They just figured nobody would notice or care.

We shall see!

Wait, we have word verification and the spammer programs can still get through? God, I hate spammers.

Wednesday, October 12, 2005 9:27:02 PM  
Anonymous said...

When your only tool is a hammer, all problems look like nails.
These police should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Thursday, October 13, 2005 2:56:20 AM  
Anonymous said...

Please get in contact with both http://www.academicbias.com/ and http://thefire.org/ they may be able to help you in your fight.

Thursday, October 13, 2005 8:14:43 AM  
Sailorcurt said...

I'm doing my part. Here's to spreading the word.

Someone needs to start a "Shaun Kranish" defense fund. I'd donate in a heartbeat. If that happens please let me know so I can let my readers know.

Thursday, October 13, 2005 8:36:48 AM  
Matthew T said...

A heartfelt bravo to Shaun, John, and everyone else on our side. This sort of solidarity and cooperation is refreshing, and it's exactly what we'll need to keep doing to regain our rights in Illinois.

My time, resources, and finances (rather limited in the last option, I fear) are at your disposal should they be needed. You know how to get ahold of me. Don't hesitate to do so.

Thursday, October 13, 2005 9:23:44 AM  
Anonymous said...

I have to add that it wasnt just a "fanny pack", but a normally illegal holster having superficial modifications to make it legally wearable. Secondly, these arent rent-a-cops, but sworn illinois police officers that chose to work on a college campus. Third, I am sorry, but if I saw someone with a holster on a college campus, that wasn't wearing a badge, I would at least report it, as would many others. With all of the public ordinances on this campus, I dont see why he has a problem with disturbing the peace. He scared people, end of story.

Thursday, October 13, 2005 11:17:56 AM  
John Birch said...

The above sounds like a cop to me. The kind that thinks only "highly trained professionals" should have guns. Why aren't people scared in Arizona when someone carries a REAL gun openly? Why are they only scared in Illinois? Illinois cops have bought into this mindset and I think they generally suck. And I am NOT posting this anonymously like our super cop above.

Thursday, October 13, 2005 11:25:57 AM  
Anonymous said...

I have to add that it wasnt just a "fanny pack", but a normally illegal holster having superficial modifications to make it legally wearable

Wearing an empty holster of any kind is not illegal anywhere in the US, period.

Thursday, October 13, 2005 11:48:28 AM  
Matthew T. said...

With all of the public ordinances on this campus, I dont see why he has a problem with disturbing the peace. He scared people, end of story.

My understanding is that he may have 'alarmed' one person - the woman with whom he spoke in the administrative building. He was even cooperative enough to let the police examine his holster to prove it was empty. Upon seeing this, they should have apologized for the inconvenience and sent him on his way.

End of story.

As John said, if Shaun lived in most other states, he could walk around with a gun strapped to his hip with near impunity. Do people in Illinois just get scared more easily? Is there some sort of chemical waste in our water supply that makes people recoil in terror at the mere sight of a firearm accessory?

Shaun wasn't shouting or making threats or doing anything at all to cause a disturbance. If this woman wants to be alarmed by the presence of a holster, that should be her problem, not his.

Thursday, October 13, 2005 12:09:01 PM  
Anonymous said...

but if I saw someone with a holster on a college campus, that wasn't wearing a badge, I would at least report it, as would many others.(QUOTE)


So that gives the cops a right to charge you with a crime? So i bring my empty gun case with me and thats a crime? Where does it say that empty holsters are illegal? I am so sick of these police thinking their above the law and they can do whatever they want. The cops think they will "teach" you a lesson....well i hope shaun sues the shit out these people and maybe WE can teach them a lesson.

Thursday, October 13, 2005 1:37:27 PM  
Anonymous said...

Anybody up for wearing empty holsters to show some solidarity.I would prefer to have a gun in mine,but that would be just plain illeagal.

Thursday, October 13, 2005 2:59:49 PM  
Anonymous said...

They arrested him, basically for making a political statement via his clothing.

I'd be up for a statewide "holster day".

ckmorley

Thursday, October 13, 2005 3:33:46 PM  
Anonymous said...

Lets make it holster month. You know like Black History Month. Maybe we can get it printed on the calender.
T.J.

Thursday, October 13, 2005 4:03:02 PM  
Anonymous said...

Does anybody have any connections to get this story out there.No offence to John & Bo or the other guys,this web site is great,but can a Ted Nugent or a radio host with more ears to hear,help this kid out.Lets face it, Chicago T.V and Radio or news paper is going to be a big fat waist of effort, when it comes to this stuff.
T.J

Thursday, October 13, 2005 8:28:22 PM  
let's roll said...

I'll be willing to contribute to his defence fund, I think he is a patriot in more than one way, and he is going to need for us to stand behind him in support.
I'm sure John B and others will post info when in come available on where to send the checks.
Let's saddle up boys, I smell a fight coming.

Thursday, October 13, 2005 10:10:17 PM  
Anonymous said...

Count me in on the defense fund! His civil rights were violated and these people need to be dealt with in court. I also agree that we should make a illinois holster day. What are the police gonna do, arrest everybody that wears a empty holster? I'm sure that will get some media attention. These cops "big dummies" just opened a huge can of worms. I'm just glad that someone like shaun had the cahonies to make a statement, even if it got him in trouble.

Friday, October 14, 2005 8:33:33 AM  
Anonymous said...

Count me in on his defense fund, too.

Shawn in Montana

Friday, October 14, 2005 9:02:21 AM  
45superman said...

I also want to contribute, if the prosecuting attorney is dumb enough to actually take this farce to court.
Shaun was charged with disorderly conduct, because lawmakers forgot to pass a "Scaring the sheeple" law. Apparently the "college ninjas" weren't aware of that, and arrested him anyway. Could end up being an expensive mistake for them. He he.

Friday, October 14, 2005 9:55:47 AM  
Jason said...

His civil rights were violated and these people need to be dealt with in court.

Sadly, the courts won't do much of anything to deal with these tyrants... you see the courts are full of them too, and they WILL protect their own.

I found out in a very similiar manner in Ellensburg, WA.

Shaun, save your money... if the gun rights community doesn't stand up in a big way for your defense, take the plea, (if it leaves your record clean), and fight another day.

Our government, (justice and executive branches specifically), will not allow the kind of changes that need to take place for individual liberties to even be acknowledged. It's become a socialists wet dream that they will fight to YOUR death to keep.

True freedom was so long ago, 99 percent of us don't know what we have lost, (because it was stolen from us before our birth).

By no means am I saying give up the fight! But two piece of crap tyrants, (who will no doubt be protected by 50 more in a system designed by them), aren't worth anymore then the cost of "tar and feathers".

The fight you have is with the mindset of your fellow citizens. Those protecting this system have already decided to be willfully destructive of the rights of the "civilians".

Either way, I'll be following your story and wish you the best. My story looks to be leading to the court of appeals, since the superior court judge is still doing his best to protect this system.

Jason
www.fishorman.blogspot.com

Sunday, October 16, 2005 2:11:14 AM  
Anonymous said...

Jason is correct in this respect: the constant propagandizing against Liberty by the pressure groups (read The News Media, the Feminists, Law Enforcement, the Anti-Druggies, the Churches, etc., etc.) has led normally leave-them-folks-alone minded people to FEAR what was NORMAL activity in the not too distant past. We used to be able to buy MAIL-ORDER guns; used to be able to buy CANNONS, used to be able to buy large ROCKET ENGINES, used to able to buy NEW MACHINE GUNS, used to be able to buy various chemical reagents at local stores.

Look at the general public now: saying "Boo!" leads one to being hauled off to Gitmo.

This has fueled a massive growth in law enforcement; it has fueled BATF who has so many agents they show up at local fires. And all this because some whiner is always there on the news media to CRY if so-and-so didn't have a Gun, didn't have access to fireworks, didn't have access to go-know-what, an event whouldn't have happened.

The enemies of Liberty have succeeded in transforming the entire population, I'm afraid!

Monday, October 17, 2005 12:22:05 PM  

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